The Saiyan Rebels: What if Raditz Turned Good 5

Hello Island Guest and welcome back to my fifth part of this alternate reality story set inside the Dragon Ball Z universe. In this timeline we take inspiration from a Bardock who did not see Frieza’s decimation of the planet Vegeta through a vision but from common sense. Like the Bardock we saw in the Broly movie! This resulted in Raditz hating the galactic tyrant more and always doubting the story of the Meteor. More focussed on taking down the Tyrant Raditz was much more aware of the legend of Super Saiyan’s and seeing Gohan’s Potential turned him into a believer! Now he just wants to stop Frieza and his men and free the galaxy and return saiyan pride.

In the last Episode we saw the battles against Nappa and Vegeta unfold. While the Z-Fighters were much more potent.. since Gohan trained with Raditz and Goku at King Kai’s and Snake way.. Piccolo never softens up! When he downed Nappa in his fight, he wanted to kill.. going against the wishes of Raditz and Goku. Tien and Yamcha fought him off..but an unexpected Powerball from Vegeta caused the downed Nappa to turn into a Great Ape that totally lost control!  Killing Piccolo and Tien. Chiaotzu blew himself up to sever Nappa’s tail. In the fight against Vegeta, Goku pretended to lose to trigger Gohan’s power boost and he discovered False Super Saiyan. Vegeta lost the battle.. but his pride prevented him from joining the team. Only leaving the group with a regretful Nappa and No More Dragon Balls.

You can check Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 and Part 4 here.  This part will be a bit different. With a bit  more explanation on how the story would change rather than act it out.  Most what if’s I follow tend to go into the bigger lines and this way we can cover events more quickly.

Team Namek

In this version of events Goku is not as wounded as he was before. The most wounded person on the team was Gohan and Raditz thought he was the one to gain Super Saiyan. While Gohan did not learn Kaioken unlike his father and uncle Gohan did manage to dabble in the spirit bomb technique. Though in his case it would more be a shield as he lacks the strength to toss it around.  He can just put the energy of others in between him and his enemies. As a result though everyone is much more comfortable training Gohan a bit.
Him displaying signs of something near Super Saiyan god makes them believe the legends are true. As per usual the idea of going to Namek arises but since all the Saiyans want to travel with Gohan.. the Namekian ship is not used. Instead everyone will go on Goku’s ship but without the long recovery time.  So they are going to arrive on Namek early. 

The team that will be going is Raditz, Nappa, Goku and Gohan as for the Saiyans. Yamcha Krillin and Bulma will also come. Yamcha is still alive and saw his friends die trying to save him and Bulma is there in case something goes wrong with the Ship. Saiyans can be rough after all. This ship is much speedier than the Namekian one.. but everyone starts training immediately.  Except for Bulma who stays in an area with less gravity which she also designed. Yamcha and Krillin have issues with the gravity training as they are the only ones who haven’t trained at King Kai’s or are used to the heavier gravity. Surprisingly Nappa takes onto mentoring these two giving the others who are stronger than him a chance to move ahead. However since Nappa easily was the most wounded of them all, even on death’s door he actually caught up to Goku and Raditz. With a power level of 7000 before training starts. Gohan is also in that area now.. probably a little below.. but he already is close to unlocking Super Saiyan as he experienced False Super Saiyan. Which is a non canon form ..but here we use it as a non complete Super Saiyan. While Goku, Raditz and Gohan train and go all out.

Nappa whips the earthlings into shape. Sometimes even using some of his beloved Saibamen.Sometimes Raditz alternates with Nappa so Nappa can train with the main group as Raditz tries to teach the humans Kaioken. Probably a much better teacher than Goku would be if he actually manages to make Krillin and Yamcha learn Kaioken x2, it’s not much but it is a whole lot better than what they got before. Raditz, feeling he was not pure hearted enough skipped training with the Spirit Bomb at King Kai’s and focussed more on Kaioken so he is actually more proficient at it than Goku. He should be able to teach this at least a bit. Now the one who actually comes out ahead here is actually Gohan. Raditz is convinced that this Hybrid Saiyan is the actual person who shall become a Super Saiyan and  that means training is very focussed on making the young boy the most powerful. In the end this results in Gohan surpassing everyone, but also meaning that Goku arrives on Namek a fair bit weaker than in the original story. So here are our Power Levels

1. Gohan: 25.000 instead of 1500
2. Goku 22,000 instead of 90.000
3. Raditz 21.000 instead of 1200 at time of death
4. Nappa 15.000 instead of 4000 at time of death
5. Krillin at 10.000 instead of 1500
6. Yamcha at 8000 instead of 1480
Goku really missed out on his intense Zenkai and worked to pass on the torch to Gohan. Yet Combined  the group already is almost stronger than the group during the Ginyu bit of the arc.. and this time EVERYONE except for Gohan, even Nappa knows at least a bit of Kaioken. With that the group lands on Namek

Dodoria and Zarbon

The group ends up on Namek around the same time as they did in the original timeline. A little while earlier but not by much  It took Bulma a bit to finish the ship but it is much faster than the Namekian one so the group arrives only a smidge earlier. Which means Frieza’s forces have already begun to invade the planet. Yet there aren’t any Namekian Fatalities yet, the Frieza force is only just preparing.  The atmosphere is completely different though. Instead of fear for some intense power levels the only one that is TOO high for the group is actually Frieza. Nappa and Raditz tell them that Ki comes from Frieza but many of his troops are attacking villages. Everyone wants to help the villages so they all scatter about. But right before they do they detect Vegeta’s power as well. He is almost as strong as Gohan so he might be trouble. The group wants to lay low so their Ki can’t flare up to much! “Do NOT use Kaioken,” said  Raditz. His father’s tactical mindset always shines through in the man.  As the group goes to rescue the Namekians we get a few interesting matchups.

We get a fight between Raditz and Vegeta, because Raditz wants to convince the prince to join their side still, Nappa versus Dodoria and Gohan versus Zarbon. In the fight against Raditz versus Vegeta both fight on fairly equal ground. However it seems Vegeta’s heart isn’t fully in the fight.. when he was in that healing Pod.. he thought about that kid that overpowered him a lot. That change… could he truly be a Super Saiyan?!  Would his pride prevent him from defeating Frieza? Vegeta might be prideful but throughout the show he also has a few moments he realises he has been wrong.. and if the boy can achieve that form maybe he can learn it as well. He will eventually surpass them again.. after all he is the prince of all Saiyans. However Vegeta being Vegeta shows he is more powerful than Raditz. Not fully releasing Raditz has Kaioken he takes a cheap shot and blows a hole in Raditz… one he can recover from.. but  as punishment for talking down to him. 


Nappa has trouble taking down Dodoria without Kaioken. While he is at a respectable 15.000 Dodoria is at 22.000 and is still a bit much for him. As he is about to be beaten however behind him he hears the words “Wolf Fang Fist” and Dodoria who isn’t that aware of his Surroundings get Winded.  Together Nappa and Yamcha fight the pink brute and with Yamcha using his pesky Spirit Ball he is able to annoy Dodoria enough that Nappa can land a killing blow with his Bomber DX. The fight of Gohan against Zarbon however doesn’t go as planned. Obviously Gohan should be the one to go after their strongest fighter.. and Nappa and Raditz showed they had no idea about repressing Ki and so it is safe to assume all these fighters are at their maximum potential. Unfortunately for Gohan.. Zarbon had his second form and he was overwhelmed taking a serious beating. Zarbon’s Beautiful form is already at 24.000 so in his ugly form unfortunately he is strong enough to defeat Gohan. Sensing this Krillin and Goku rush over, having one their fights fairly easily.

Goku sees no other option as to go into Kaioken to save his son as fast as possible! Having bonded so much more with Gohan over this past year and a bit , unlike in the original timeline Goku’s love and understanding of his son has exponentially grown. This Gohan being allowed to be a fighter.. by Raditz bluntness silencing Chichi. This means the two actually are that much closer. Briefly while Goku flies over there his Red Kaioken aura flares up golden and his hair seems to shift colour.. not that golden brown Gohan got.. but a more golden tint.. however it briefly fades away. Using Kaioken x3 Goku is easily able to defeat Zarbon but Gohan is very injured. He might be fading. A Young Namekian steps up and says he might know someone who can help. He introduces himself as Dende and urges them to follow him to a man named Guru.

Potential Unlocked.. and an Early Wish?

Since the earth team now consists out of six fighters and everyone has won their fight.. they all have a Dragon Ball, Dende carrying the one Zarbon had.  Detecting the final Dragon Ball at Guru’s place the other earth fighters show up there as well. Including Vegeta. Vegeta says they should wish for immortality but is quickly shut down by Goku. The wish shall be used to bring back everyone on earth so the Dragon Balls return hopefully they can ask to not bring Piccolo back as he went evil. Vegeta scoffs but thinks two sets of Dragon Balls are better than one, the namekian of earth could always grant them a wish from a distance if need be.
At Guru’s place , Guru does offer them the final Dragon Ball..as a reward for saving all his people.. Guru is much healthier in this timeline. He also has a gift for those who came from Earth. Vegeta makes trouble for not being granted this reward but Guru tells him he is not worthy. While all the others fought to protect he fought to destroy. Guru promises Vegeta however that if he shows he can be pure of heart he will unlock his potential later. He does not seem like a lost cause. Vegeta reluctantly agrees.. but tells that if the old man dies he will blow the planet up. Guru simply says that this  shows why Vegeta is not ready yet.

Everyone else including Bulma and Dende have their potential unlocked. With Bulma becoming even more technical and smart than she already was and Dende unlocking his healing. Upon hearing this Vegeta gets an idea and checks out the powerful Namekian named  Nail asking him for all out spar. Lying that he fought Frieza before and that he might be able to tell if Nail can face the man. The Namekian humors him, aided by Vegeta explaining he might be able to get strength from this fight as well. Vegeta that is.

The boost the other fighters get is enormous. Their power completely skyrockets to incredible levels.  With both Gohan and Goku having tapped into new forms their potential is incredible and the boost received reflects that.  Gohan went from 1500 to 10.000 after his unlock before so that is an 8x modifier. This version of Gohan should even receive a bit more due his tapping into False Super Saiyan in my earlier part.  Thus him and Goku would now almost be around a power level of 200.000. Nappa gets the least potential boost of them all. Not having the purest heart and being a bit old he only gets a 4x multiplier. Making him the weakest on the team with a power level of 60.000  Krillin and Yamcha end up with a power level of around 70.000 ..frustrating Nappa immensely. Raditz would get the classic 8ish times multiplier and would end up at around 160.000 in terms of power level. Most of them are strong enough to even defeat Ginyu but still no match for Frieza.

But there is more , all the Dragon Balls are in place so the group now can make their wishes Guru says. “Wait Wishes?” Gohan would ask the man. He would indeed explain there are three of them. Two more than on earth! That is amazing!  Unfortunately it is soon revealed that they can only bring one person back at a time with this Dragon Ball. They ask if Kami can be restored without Piccolo. Porunga says he can not do that. The two are one, their lives are linked. This spells trouble for the group as there is no one left to defend earth. Then Nail gets an idea and he asks if the Dragon can fuse him with another Namekian if he mentions their name. This the Dragon CAN do. So he suggests to wish Kami and Piccolo back and for their second wish to fuse Piccolo into him. He will be able to help them fight Frieza better. The group thinks about this and it is a great way to seal Piccolo for good and it might even sever Kami from the life link.. or bound someone much stronger and pure hearted to him at the very least. So the group makes these two wishes. Piccolo is restored from HIFL but with a final scream his consciousness is absorbed into Nail. For the Final wish Vegeta coins immortality again, Raditz considers wishing for a way for Princess Snake to be able to walk on Earth.. the two hit it off earlier but then gets an idea. Maybe they can ask Porunga more about Super Saiyan.  On how to achieve it?!  But how do they phrase it.. maybe it’s not exactly like in the legend and using the wrong name will waste a wish. So he thinks for a moment then asks Porunga to tell them more about forms they can unlock to kill Frieza.


Porunga says that he sees three ways.  One is the single Namekian that is actually many, the other is the gold form of Saiyan Rage.. Super Saiyan..and if Five Pure Hearted Saiyans channel their power into a sixth they can defeat Frieza with the Power of Super Saiyan God!
After this the Dragon Balls Scatter across the planet and become inert. An enraged Frieza called the Ginyu Force and is heading towards the Namekian Village.  Everyone is dumbstruck. Super Saiyan God?!  But they are one Saiyan short.. it seems hopeless. However can they go into this rage and unlock Super Saiyan without losing anyone?! They do not want casualties. Darn it!

They feel Frieza’s power level drawing in closer and while Nail might be enough to face him now.. Dodoria told Nappa about his other forms during their fight. It all seems in vain. Everyone is frustrated! It’s not enough!  Frieza’s first form power level is 540.000, it will take their strongest three to even stand a chance against that form. Who knows how powerful his other forms are. Then Vegeta breaks the silence. “Kakarot.. can you communicate with the green dork on earth?’. Goku says he can not but he might be able to relay a message via King Kai.  “Tell him to gather Earth’s Dragon Balls, I got an idea”. Goku says they are NOT gonna wish for Immortality. Vegeta shakes his head. “No.. that ritual.. “ Gohan points out they are a saiyan short and they are the only Saiyans left alive and the Dragon Ball’s cant bring back Saiyans that have been long dead. Vegeta shakes his head again. “We might not be the last of the Saiyans… there just might be ONE more’

And that is where our story ends this time!  Since this group has been aiming for Super Saiyan since the beginning and gathered the Dragon Balls much easier due to how powerful they had become, they might have stumbled upon a form that was not made up yet during the time the saga originally ran. However with Raditz being cautious as his personality even was in the official series, it seems plausible the form would come up. Do you know what Saiyan Vegeta is talking about?!  What will happen next.. and how would Ginyu react to a body with its potential unlocked? Find out next time!

Pinkie’s “What If Raditz Turned Good” Chapter 1

It is no secret anymore that I am a huge Dragon Ball fan. I consume just about everything that is covered with those fish egg coloured wishing orbs. This includes the amazing Dragon Ball Z Abridged and the stories of that goku’s voice actor Masoko X. He made a great point telling us Goku’s brother Raditz was completely wasted in the show and wrote a story to keep him in the fold. It is an amazing story that has given me so much joy that I decided to give this scenario a retelling of my own.

The Power of Memories

The story of Dragon Ball Z would begin much like it would in the original. We would see the iconic farmer with the shotgun scene and Goku and Raditz first meeting at Kame house would also go exactly the same. Well… not exactly the same. There is one difference. In the recent Broly movie we see Raditz speaking about his little brother. While dismissive there is some sort of empathy there.. it’s not much.. a kindle at best but seeing the crying Gohan would briefly spark a memory in Raditz.. a memory of his crying brother with a power level of 2.

This memory on it’s own would not do much and Raditz doesn’t show this emotion towards the group but when he takes Gohan away and flies off into the distance he can be seen frowning. Remembering how his little brother was send off moments before his planet was  destroyed. He always had doubts about the meteor story since Bardock.. in the new cannon is shown to have his own doubts about Frieza. It is more than likely he would have shared these with his son. He can not prove it.. but he always felt there was more to this story. Seeing his race now live on in the form of this hybrids those doubts begin to gnaw at him once more. However since Frieza is such an insurmountable force, he quickly dismisses the thoughts as a figment of his imagination. Yet he is slightly less rough in the way he locks Gohan into his pod.

The Double Battle Against Raditz

Back at Kame House Goku and Piccolo unite to fight this high powered menace that has suddenly shown up. They would move forward towards his pods location and the fight would proceed as usual with Raditz dominating the fight. However everything would change when Gohan suddenly gets his rage boost.”Leave My Daddy alone” he would yell as his power skyrockets, headbutting Raditz and breaking his armor. In the original this would lead to Goku being able to grab his tail and Raditz into deceiving him.. this time the young boy has changed his mind.

“What was that” he asked cringing with his tale still held into a grapple”. Tricking Goku in the original by feigning compliance this time, this time Raditz actually calms down and grows cooperative. The power surge that just happend, could that perhaps solve his people’s bigger problems? Could this boy be the key to their freedom? Raditz never fully believed this story, in this timeline and we see actual proof in the main story. While Vegeta is shocked to learn the truth..he really deals with it within seconds.. as if somewhere he already knew. That alongside his hertigage makes me think such an action from Raditz has some merrit to it.

Lore and Legends

The older Saiyan would surrender to Goku, crushing his scouter before he begins to explain. That he and the other two and last remaining Saiyans work for a galactic tyrant named Frieza. While Piccolo is mistrusting of the man and wants to kill him he is stopped by Goku who takes interest in this tale. The idea of fighting someone that mighty.. that is stronger than anyone in this world facinates the man who’s motivations has always to be strong fighters. Raditz tells Piccolo that he could easily stop them with their power level.. if he wished. Saying his mistrust is foolish Namekian. We get some lore on the Saiyans and of the Namekians as well..but his story would mostly be about how terrible Frieza is how regardless of the outcome of this fight this man will eventually enslave everyone. Yet then he brings up.. a certain legend.

Raditz does believe that the Saiyans one day will take down Frieza, he spent a lot of time with Vegeta after all.. putting him in place as low class warrior. While initially Vegeta claims the legend of the Super Saiyan to be nothing but a legend, he is very familiar with i and connects it from basically nothing. Gohan displayed a surge of uncontrollable rage power right there. Having much more connection to the myth. As the son of Bardock.. a proud Saiyan who was very skilled at employing what is available to you and versed in Saiyan Lore.. Raditz should be able to connect the dots. This time he does. Explaining how the power of that young boy might be connected to Legendary Super Saiyan.

A plan for all Saiyans

Goku initially gets super excited about the idea of there being such strong fighters in the galaxy and how his son could be key to a new sort of power accesible to his “race” that he just discovered about. Piccolo snaps some sense into him telling Goku this man is asking Goku to put his son at a terrible risk. Goku gets scared and cries out “Chichi is gonna kill us”

Raditz frowns and asks “What is A Chichi, my scouter said you are the two highest power levels” Goku begins to explain and we see come cutaways how they met and got married. A small clipshow to make viewers aware there was a show before this. Raditz tells Goku he would blow anyone away who stands in the way of stopping Frieza. Goku simply says.. “no no.. we don’t do that around here… we might just need the Dragon Balls to convince her…. oh whoops”

Raditz learns about the Dragon Balls immediately recognizing their potential and has another request a wish that might be able to stop the Saiyans , who of course are still coming. His first plan is to show them Gohan’s potential.. or discover what technique he used to raise his power THAT much. iF they are not able to get strong enough these wishing orbs could proof that Frieza is behind the destruction of Planet Vegeta.. which could most likely convince Vegeta to fight against the tyrant. Who is about 10 times stronger than him. The Tyrant Frieza surpasses that guy by at least 50 times.

Convincing Chichi

Goku and his brother now have to convince Chichi to let Gohan train with them which goes about as well as expected. “What about his studies? Our boy should be a doctor, under no circumstances Gohan can go.. you are not putting our boy in danger”  While Goku gets all nervous at Chichi’s behaviour Raditz is much less intimidated. He is used to verbal abuse and people talking trash. He’ll have non of it.

He begins with telling her how Saiyans raise their kids.. explaining she can’t suppress his nature. She defends with how training is not something for a young boy to do. Raditz counters “My Brother just told me he met you while training, if you or he had not been fighters Gohan would not even haf existed’. This reminds Chichi of her “warrior” days and weakens her resolve.

Raditz tells about all the terrible things he has done in Frieza’s name.. not sparing any details. She can not let that happen to her Gohan. Raditz embalishes a bit.. saying that someone with as much potential as Gohan will never be save from a man like that.. if he doesn’t train this planet will most likely be destroyed. In truth .. he only suspects this to be remotely true but anything to further his cause. He also reluctantly tells her that the prince of their entire race would owe Gohan, giving it just enough prestige to make it more appealing to Chichi.

“He can train but only if you let him do his homework, he needs a proper job when he grows up’. “I bet Prince Vegeta will reward you so handsomely for your help you, your son or his son’s son would not have to worry about money ever again. Raditz smirks as he just screwed Vegeta over with such a propmiss. Somewhat reluctantly..but this time permanently Chichi accepts her sons heritage and grand future. While I get the over protective mother sentiment, the whole world of Dragon Ball resolves around fighting and she was raised into it to an extent. So it should be way easier to convince Chichi than Goku made it.. especially this early on. Raditz numerical approach would help greatly.

Training and new Techniques

Meanwhile Piccolo takes it upon himself to train up the other Z-Fighters In true Toriyama style they get relegated to the background , quite a bit faster this time though training under Piccolo will give them quite a level boost when it comes before the epic showdown. Piccolo would also get a lot stronger from his training with stronger fighters than Gohan. Yet it would also mean that Piccolo hasn’t fully abandoned his plan to kill Goku with the Special Beam Cannon yet.. if this Frieza is emperor of the galaxy and they could get strong enough to defeat him.. by killing the people who killed him he might be able to rule the galaxy himself. ..A thought reminiscent of his father.. that he now can not shake as well as before. Turning him into a rather merciless trainer.. only improving the Z-Fighters gains further.

Training at Kami like normally first Gohan keeps being very afraid of Raditz hindering their training when Kami has an idea. Using the same sort technique he once used on the Z-Fighters in a filler episode to let them fight against Saiyans of the past he uses this same strategy on Gohan, Goku and Raditz. Hoping that seeing the seriousness  of all will make Gohan get over his fear. Much like in the original the group the scenario is basically an unwinnable one. Unlike in the original this illusion is made   more in the vain of the Kobayashi Maru scenario from Star Trek where a captain has to  learn how to cope with that fear of certain defeat.

However this goes not as Kami and the others would have expected. While Raditz gets taken out first he does manage to seriously damage the fake historic saiyans. Gohan paralyzed with fear sees his father taken down while trying to protect Gohan he manages to take down Scarface . Shorty then cruelly  guns down a weakened Goku with a beam technique. This causes Gohan to snap again.. his power rising to new levels taking out the second saiyan. Breaking out the illusion Kami walks in surprised that they actually won. Raditz inquires about Gohan’s power boost  againg. Praticing Kii sense himself. Kami is unsure what Gohan’s rage boost is as well.. but as Raditz describes it as Gohan’s power level multiplying many times over the old Namekian says  he might know of a power like that.

Raditz scolds at the man for being so mysterious and that he should speak up. Kami ensures him that learning it would be quite impossible as they would have to travel to King Yemma and beyond which is normally only accesible if you are dead. “Goku blurts out that if Babba can cross people over from the dead to the world of the living the other way might be possible as well, they could ask this King Yemma to be there longer train. Kami sighs and says ‘Very well.. I shall tell you.. it is a technique called the Kaio-Ken’

And this is where  our story ends for now. A young boy with mysterious powers, recruits an ally stronger than ever before..but also might spell doom for the entire planet. Will Goku and his family be allowed to train in the after life? Will Raditz be able to convince the evil saiyans? What will become of Piccolo? FInd out the next time on :

Dragon Ball Pinkie!